Hp required for round baler

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How many horsepower does it take to run a round baler?

Usually it takes AT LEAST 55 PTO horsepower to run a round baler.

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In this way, how fast can you pull a round baler?

Pulled it on a pick-up at 50 mph, (it will squat a 1/2 ton the ground, but my 2500HD Duramax doesn't know it is back there).

One may also ask, how much does a round baler cost? For harvesting 4-foot-by-5-foot round bales, estimated new equipment costs are $25,000 for a rotary mower/conditioner, $5,500 for a 10-foot rake, $35,000 for the baler and $55,000 for an adequate-sized tractor.

Similarly, what is the best hay baler?

  • John Deere 459 Round Baler.
  • John Deere 469 Round Baler.
  • John Deere 559 Round Baler.
  • John Deere 569 Round Baler.
  • John Deere 569 Silage Special Baler.
  • John Deere 854 Silage Baler.
  • John Deere 569 Premium Round Baler.
  • John Deere 469 Premium Round Baler. The next options for Deere round balers are the premium 469 and 569.

How many bales is a lot for a round baler?

On average a baler ought to go 3-5 thousand bales and a tractor ought to go 8-9 thousand hours. It all depends on the above. I know of many balers that do that many or more per year. Seen many a NH's with 50,000 or more bales on them.

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By Carole Knight

Bulloch County CEA

The process of baling hay has come a long way since the late 1800’s when Cyrus McCormick’s reaper design used a knotter to bundle and bind hay. The technology has improved but the goal has remained the same – safely store hay to feed to livestock at a later date. Today, balers come in a wide variety of sizes, shapes, and colors. In the Southeast, the most common baler is the round baler and this will be the focus of this article. Choosing the right round baler begins with an evaluation of your operation; looking at annual production, productivity expectations, equipment available, type of crop, storage options and end usage. Careful comparisons of features and specifications between balers can help you make the best choice for your operation. There are several important factors to consider before purchasing a round baler.

PTO Horsepower

If you already own a tractor, be sure to select a baler model that your tractor can handle. If you are buying a baler first, keep horsepower requirements in mind when pairing with a tractor. PTO horsepower requirements for round balers start at 30 hp and can run up to 120 hp.

Bale Size

There are a couple of different options when it comes to bale size in balers. Balers can be fixed chambered, variable chambered, or a combination thereof. Fixed chamber balers pick-up feeds the crop to a circular bale chamber formed by a series of frame-mounted rollers individually driven by a heavy duty chain. The variable chamber baler is driven by belts and is expandable, allowing for different bale sizes to be formed.

Hay Type

The type of forage that is being harvested (hay or baleage) should also be taken into consideration when choosing a baler. When working with baleage, make sure the selected baler is capable of handling such a damp and heavy crop. Silage balers often have heavier bearings and scrapers to clear gummy debris from moving parts.

Wrap

Wrap selection is also an important component to successfully storing harvested feeds. Generally, there are four types of wrap used: sisal twine, plastic twine, net-wrap, and tube-wrap. In general, sisal twine can rot when stored outdoors and usually is a poor choice.   Plastic twine has better rot resistance than sisal, but et-wrap and tube wrap offer better protection from the environment. John Deere now markets “B-wrap,” which is a type of net wrap designed to allow outside hay storage with lower losses. Yet, net and tube wrap do add additional costs and it is still unclear if the B-wrap will be cost-effective.

Features

Balers can come with as many or as few of features as new automobiles. A bale monitor that goes inside the tractor cab can be very handy in managing bale options, such as bale size and number of wraps. A bale kicker can also be beneficial in that it can save time. Without this feature, when the bale is finished you have to back up and then pull forward again to release the bale and shut the end gate.

Customer Service

Probably one of the most important things to look at is the availability of customer service. Access to replacement parts and/or repair service can affect how quickly you can get back to baling hay when a breakdown occurs.

Selecting the proper round baler for your operation might seem like a challenge at first, but with good planning and careful considerations, choosing the perfect fit can become a reality.

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Pape Machinery Presents Horsepower Requirements for Round Balers

If you already own a tractor and you’re adding a baler to your arsenal of attachments, the question you are probably asking yourself is, “How much horsepower does it take to run around baler?” The answer is that it depends on the model. Review the minimum horsepower requirements for John Deere round balers below before making a purchase.

John Deere Baler Horsepower Requirements

There are 16 different options in the John Deere Zero Series Baler line. Each model is listed below from lowest to highest horsepower requirements.


Model

PTO HP (Minimum)
450E55 hp
450M / 450M Silage55 hp
550M / 550M Silage55 hp
460M / 460M Silage65 hp
460 R65 hp
560M / 560M Silage75 hp
560R75 hp
450M MegaWide™ HC80 hp
460M MegaWide™ HC125 hp
560M MegaWide™ HC125 hp
460R MegaWide™ HC125 hp
560R MegaWide™ HC125 hp

 

The low horsepower round balers, like the 450E, 450M, and 550M models can be paired with any of the John Deere 5-Series or 6-Series utility tractors. The MegaWide models that require a minimum of 125 PTO HP need to be paired with a more heavy-duty tractor like a 4WD or Row Crop tractor.

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Brazilton KS

Will 90 PTO hp be adequate for a 5x6 round baler?    We've always baled with bigger tractors since way back in the Rounder5500 days...46 pto hp would barely handle that, but back then a 5x6 bale weighed 1000 lbs at best. 



WisconsinI would think so. Those big balers don't have a cutter, which seems to take the most power.

MidwestI have baled many a bale with 85 hp. No problem.

Plenty of pto power but full baler will push it around a bit easier.  I prefer 120 to 140 but have used smaller.  



I bale with a 5140. It's rated at 94 pto hp and it pulls a 5x6 baler just fine.


Brazilton KS

We don't really get on any "terrain" down here, so not too worried about that.



northwest tennesseeI have a 535 JD baler and bale with a 2955 JD and dont have any trouble at all. WE have hills here too.


It will handle it just fine I your terrain is what I think it is. I have used an 85 PTO hp tractor the past few years and got along just fine. When the hay is heavy enough that higher hp would help the intake of the baler becomes the limiting factor anyway.

Nathan


Oskaloosa, Iowa 52577

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Elmira, Ontario

You calling him the 25 acre man?




Oskaloosa, Iowa 52577

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Alberta CanadaI run a 4440 on my JD 566 making 5x6 bales, 1700lbs. Have used the 6410 (95hp) but found it liked to overheat and run warm.

West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175

Ran a Deere 7400 (105?) for many yrs on a 5x6 on any terrain they threw at me....


90 should be fine...If you're getting pushed around-- widen her out to 90's and then if you need add some weight....




Edited by loran 8/18/2011 20:45



IowaNo problem. Ran 92hp tractor on a 567 for several years. Never a problem up hill or down and even rolled some 2000lb bales and didn't have any issues.


Statesville, NCI think with most variable chamber belt balers 90 hp would be fine. Some of the fixed chambers can pull pretty hard when they are full. A neighbor had a Deutz-Allis fixed chamber with dimpled rollers around the chamber (no belts), and it gave a 80 hp tractor a load, and I think it was a 4x5 or 5x5.

Edited by Trent2520 8/18/2011 21:15


I'd think it would be fine on a belt baler. Probably going to work the snot out of 90 horse if it's a fixed chamber tho. Mine is a 4x4 fixed chamber. It will work on 60 hp. It works a lot better on 75 hp, particularly in silage. Given you'd have about the same weight in the bale, I'd think similar power would be required as a minimum.
I've never found the weight to be an issue to drag around with a MFWD tractor. It was with a 2WD.

Rod

north west arkansasWe pull our 605k with a ford 7840 which is 90 hp and it handles it perfect.

south texasI use JD 6410. Under certain conditions the tractor "hates life". But its so much better than using 4430, or 9600ford.


NW Barton County MissouriI was wondering the same thing plowboy. We've got an itty bitty 4X4 baler, looking at going bigger. Uncle pulls a 4X5 with a 90hp with no problem. Sounds like the 5X6 wont cause much trouble

A guy who did custom round baling here and quite a bit of it for 5 or 6 years with a 6400 and 2wd. Our area is extremely hilly. He up graded tractors because he got sick of being pushed around, not because of horsepower.

Wallis, TXRan a 567 and a 568 with a 6420 no problems unless the baler was cutting ruts and you needed a bigger tractor to get it out of the wet spot. Would run it 7 mph in almost any condition. With the 4640 in front we need a spare slip clutch on hand, son gets a little too fast sometimes. I keep telling him the turtle won the race but he prefers to test the limits. 127 six footers in three hours is his best so far.

Mid-MissouriJD 7210 and 567 making tight bales in some hills.

What a bunch of whimps, somewhere on here they want 100 hp to pull a rake. I used to rake with a Super A and pulled a 605C Vermeer with a D17 Allis, on some pretty good hills.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saronville NEIt will be enuff if you dont want to push it, but these newer balers are alot heavier and have alot more capacity then the old 5x6s like a 530, if you wanna bale double windrows at 8+ mph a 90 hp tractor wont be enuff. I bale with a 7810 MFD on a 568 and in good heavy windrows you can make er blow black smoke at 8+ mph. We baled with our 5250 1 time, and it worked that tractor at 7 mph, but at 5 mph it handled it fine, just depends how hard you wanna push it. IMO


SwMo on Ks lineYour 4240 will work just great on a 5x6 baler...yes your 4x4's are itty bitty.Lots of trips hauling to and from.

I used to roll hay with MF 275 tractor and Vermeer 605F baler, sold that baler, brought a new John Deere 535. Now use a MF 4243 tractor on the 535. It 75 PTO hp and does just fine.

Wallis, TX

65SuperSport - 8/18/2011 23:04

What a bunch of whimps, somewhere on here they want 100 hp to pull a rake. I used to rake with a Super A and pulled a 605C Vermeer with a D17 Allis, on some pretty good hills.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



No such thing as too much hp! Ran the twin rake today with a 1086, didn't bog down, even in the turns. LOL

It was 104 today and I refused to drive the Farmall 400 or the H on the rake. In the fall I love to rake with the old tractors, I've even ran the square baler with the JD 530. Today I picked the 'correct' tractor by how good the A/C works and how smooth the seat is. Oh yeah, the 1086 has had an air seat put in place of the factory seat.

Edited by twraska 8/19/2011 00:30


Eastern MontanaThere's been quite a few thousand bales rolled up around here with a 4020 in front of the baler.

waterford ohioI ran an 8465 case-IH (5x6 hesston ) with a 5130 case IH no problem. plenty of power.

KansasSecond what ahay68979 said. Will work but we have made 140-150hp really blow smoke on 605M Vermeer in hills or heavy hay. Moisture conditions of ground and hay can suck power. Also, when the storm clouds are building, I want enough power to grab another gear. For us, it came down to being able to use the baler tractor for other jobs during the rest of the year. We could use more hp for other jobs.


Edson, Alberta, Canada

I have been dragging my JD 535 baler around my land with a JD 4040 (approx. 85 hp) for many years now. Up hill, down hill, soft land, heavy greenfeed. So far no complaints. I do have fluid in the tires and a FEL mounted on it.
Regards,
Dave.  



East Central, NebraskaI hate to argue with all the people that do it, but I have an MX110 on a new 568 John Deere baler and I say no. I bale flat pivot 1/4's taking in 2 16ft windrows and if i baled 5 mph it might not be an issue but I like to go 10 - 12 mph, and it doesn't work very well. I wish I had a 130+ tractor. Take into consideration when you say 90 hp, other things like is it a power shift? That ususally makes 90 hp much less pulling anything. I have had a couple of every model JD baler since the 530 and in my opinion 90 hp on a 530 is alot diffrent than 90 hp on a 568 when you put the capacity to them the way they are intended.

Central Texas , York Rife FreemasonWe used to bale a reclamed rock quarry ,435 baler and 886 ,These hills are as extreme as any i have seen baled .

The tractor was heavy enough ,but h.p. was a factor .On flat land i can run 7 mph ,baling sudan .

Bloomfield, KY.I think Alfred's famous quote was "What, me worry?".

I liked Urkle's saying---"Did I do that?".

Jack McClaskey


My thoughts are that you will be disappointed in 90 hp.

But, you could always turn the smoke screw if it's not enough.





Brazilton KSAll this 10mph stuff I'm reading isn't a factor for us. We're either small cut up patches where there's no way you can go that fast, or if we are out in the open, we build a windrow that there's no way the baler will eat it that fast. I've never seen the 4430 or 7700 have any sort of power problem but I'm wondering about going as small as this.

We'll probably try one out if we can get into it right....if it won't fly on the baler, it will mow and/or rake, or else get sold. I'm not gonna buy something for retail price so it's not like it will be impossible to sell....over in SWMO they go nuts for that size tractor.


If you do decide to go with a 90 hp tractor, I would like to hear a report on that because I respect your opinion and I also don't think that you blow smoke.




West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175

Good point about the windrow size.....Makes a BIG difference.


I've been pondering and wondering why you don't put one of the CAT's on..... IIRC you have PTO on more then one and it'd be a great summer position for it?  I've seen and heard of quite a few Belted machines running in a hay field with good success?




Yorktown, TXI pull my 568 JD with a 6615 (85 hp 6 cylinder) and a 6420 (85 hp 4 cylinder). They both pull the baler good. I'm baling grass hay (coastal, KR, Klein). Most of the time the windrows are scraping the belly of the tractor, and we pull the baler at 490 - 510 rpm and drive 7-9 mph. Works like a charm, but the 6615 does ride much better. I've pulled them with larger tractors as well, but I never saw a need for the horsepower. Hope you try and it works well.

JKneese


Brazilton KS

I don't think one of the big frames would be worth a darn.  The 35 tends to find it's way on the bush hog, and there is resistance to the idea of baling with it.....just like there was resistance to bush hogging with it right up until people ran it and reallzed it was the best tractor anyone had ever thought of using on the bush hog. 




Brazilton KS

That Case kinda looks like our 7700.



not to confuse but a 6615 is 95 hp and a 6420 is rated at 90 but Nebraska summary tested it max pto hp at 103+...... I myself want about 120 hp in front of a 5 x 6 baler

Edited by yallardeere 8/20/2011 17:23
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