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What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby meganmartin159 » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:30 pm

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Hi all,
I am a new Beardie mom as well as new to this site. I thoroughly enjoy reading all the threads and getting great information! However, I have noticed a general disgust/distrust with the chain store Petsmart. Nothing specific, per say, but everyone seems to dislike them.
I am writing all of you to find out what- specifically-- you dislike about Petsmart. See, I work there and absolutely LOVE it! I enjoy my co-workers, managers, and of course the animals. I feel like our store goes to great lengths to ensure the health and well-being of all our animals (Beardies included) and I am looking for suggestions on what we can do better. (Please keep in mind I am a lowly pet-care associate, so I can't make any top-level changes, but I CAN talk to my very receptive manager about that kind of stuff!) I look forward to all of your replies!

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby Ofthelime » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:57 pm

Not all the Petco and Petsmart stores are bad but an overwhelming number of them are. Most of them ignore a lot of basic needs of the animals such as UVB, and misinform people. The prices are also outrageous on many products.

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby CooperDragon » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:44 pm

I agree, the issues stem from many people experiencing problems after being sold improper equipment (sand, improper lighting, improper food/supplements, etc). Several people have seen dragons in dirty, overcrowded tanks with improper lighting as well. I'm glad to hear that your store goes to great lengths to properly care for the animals. I think a lot of the issues come down to lack of knowledge and/or resources at certain stores. I highly encourage you, your coworkers, and customers to use this forum to learn as much as you can about proper care for bearded dragons. The more knowledge and experience everyone has, the better. Feel free to use the care articles listed on the site and to ask us any questions you have about dragons. The people on this board are happy to share our experience with you. It's good to have a caring, knowledgeable employee at the store so your dragons can have the best life possible right from the start =)

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby britjoejack » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:51 pm

We just got our baby beardie from petsmart yesterday and the biggest problem I saw was there were about 10 of them in a 10 gallon tank. Otherwise he seems healthy and he's active.

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby Taterbug » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:00 am

I have a couple problems with petsmart. One is I'm sure entirly region specific - that is lack of good husbandry. It's not nearly as bad as other chain stores but I've still seen sick, emaciated, or otherwise improperly cared for animals and filthy cages. Many stores also sell animals way too young, IMO. This contributes to one of my other complaints - they become impulse purchases.

Baby lizards are adorable, they are accessible and in the next isle over are "starter kits" to take one home right away. Some of those kits are mediocre at best, while others are downright inhumane. Bearded dragons are not particularly challenging reptiles to keep but they still have very specific needs, and pretty large space requirements. The assortment of products that exist only to fleece money from customers really upsets me, but not much you can do about that I know.

I'm curious how quickly the animals pass through the stores, some of the husbandry problems (such as lack of uvb or overcrowding) are a little more excusable if they are only at the store for a few day to a week or so. But improper husbandry paired with the stress of being in a high traffic area of busy store is sure to compound any health issues.

And to be fair, I have perused the literature at petsmart and while it's not complete by any means, nor cutting edge - it's not as misleading as many people claim. Though plenty of people show up here with "the pet store told me..." followed by poor or inaccurate information - again this will depend on the employees but I've overheard some pretty questionable advice (not just on lizards).

Do you know the supplier of your dragons, by chance?

So anyway, rant aside - petstores really set an example of care of the animals. Very few people on the street understand exotic pets or their needs. I still get asked if a (snake/fish/lizard) will only grow to the size of its cage. (My answer is yes, because once the cage is too small it will die) The dirty cages, nasty dried up food, overcrowding and poor choices of furnishings and lighting can send the wrong message about what is ok. If there is anyway to make sure customers take home the literature for the speicies and suggest they check out a few care sheets online as well. Stressing the importance of good UVB lighting, gutloading insects, using supplements, one lizard per enclosure at their forever-home.

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby Pushkin » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:49 am

My Petsmart is actually really great when it comes to their animals. At most, they'll have two baby beardies in a tank and they always look alert and happy. Several of the girls who work in that area own beardies, and one even ran a rescue for a while, so they have given me good advice (that this site and others have corroborated.) In the end, I think it's less about the chain itself, and more about the people who work at each store!

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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby DeltaElite121 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:36 am

Pushkin wrote:My Petsmart is actually really great when it comes to their animals. At most, they'll have two baby beardies in a tank and they always look alert and happy. Several of the girls who work in that area own beardies, and one even ran a rescue for a while, so they have given me good advice (that this site and others have corroborated.) In the end, I think it's less about the chain itself, and more about the people who work at each store!




Unfortunately it's both. There's a great Petsmart over by me and they do the absolute best job I've seen in a commercial pet store. The problem is, corporate tells them a certain daily routine for said animals, and they're expected to follow policy. Yes, that means that unfortunately the baby bearded dragons get fed meal worms at a young age and often times get subpar temperatures/lighting/space requirements. I've spoken with the store manager here and they admit they do the best they can and KNOW/tell the customers everything they need to know, however they are stuck with what they have. It's a sad situation, but also very admirable (in the same token) in stores like the one near me. I still buy animals from them, but so far I've bought mostly frogs because those are often very healthy there unless they are underfed like my Pyxie frog was.
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Re: What's so bad about Petsmart?

Postby meganmartin159 » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:33 pm

Ofthelime wrote:Not all the Petco and Petsmart stores are bad but an overwhelming number of them are. Most of them ignore a lot of basic needs of the animals such as UVB, and misinform people. The prices are also outrageous on many products.



I agree that the prices are ridiculous! I hardly ever shop there, even with my employee discount... but then again I am a broke college student. Many of my customers enjoy spending money on their pets and spare no expense with their animals. I also like to buy from LPS because I enjoy supporting small businesses and frequently refer my customers to area family-owned stores.
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This Is Where PetSmart Gets Its Animals, And It's Not Pretty

This is where those cute little lizards live before they're put on display at the store - and it's not pretty.

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Last month, pet store giants Petco and PetSmart came under fire for purchasing furry companion animals from a breeder where hundreds of animals were neglected and dying. Now, a new report shows what life is like for reptiles sold at PetSmart, and their situation might be even worse.

While many people know about the horrors of puppy-mill-type breeders, fewer people know that dogs aren't the only victims. PETA recently sent an undercover investigator to Ohio breeder Reptiles by Mack, which supplies reptiles and amphibians to PetSmart and other pet stores, and recorded nearly 675 deaths in just two of the breeder's several departments in 15 weeks.

Tens of thousands of animals - including lizards, frogs, turtles and snakes - were poured into filthy tubs at Reptiles by Mack and left without fresh food, water or the heat and UV lamps that many captive reptiles require.

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Piled onto each other and starving, the animals would fight with each other. The undercover worker witnessed bearded dragons with "mangled limbs," some barely hanging on by a thread. Injured limbs and tails were left to rot off, or were snapped off with wire cutters or even broken off by hand. The animals received no veterinary treatment except Neosporin.

Other animals tried so desperately to escape that they rubbed the skin off their snouts, and even exposed their teeth in severe cases.

When they did escape, workers would leave out makeshift glue traps to catch them. The freed animals would get stuck and be left for days without help before dying. "One lizard's tail broke into 11 pieces as a result of thrashing and trying to escape," PETA said. "Live animals were often carelessly yanked off the sticky boards."

Severely injured animals were left in "put down" tubs without food or water, sometimes waiting for days before a manager killed them by throwing them into plastic bags, gassing them and leaving them in a freezer - one supervisor reportedly found gassed animals who had tried to escape the freezer. Others were left to starve to death.

While Reptiles by Mack reportedly had a veterinarian contracted to visit the facility, the investigator never saw him. "I'm not really sure on what he even fucking does, honestly," one supervisor reportedly told the witness.

When one group of neglected bearded dragons was given water, they were so thirsty they reportedly drank for up to four minutes straight.

Reptiles by Mack imported animals from all over the world to replenish their stock, and they arrived in what PETA described as "barbaric" conditions: "crammed into plastic two-liter bottles, one-gallon milk jugs, mesh bags and wooden crates separated into tiny compartments like egg cartons." It's unclear if they were wild-caught, but many of them arrived at the supplier dead.

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When they were shipped out to PetSmart and other pet stores, they weren't much better off. The lizards, snakes and other animals were packed into plastic containers that looked like "restaurant 'to go' boxes" for the harsh journey out, PETA said. In one instance, hundreds of animals were left waiting to be shipped without food or water for more than 24 hours.

According to PETA, a supervisor told the investigator that the tortoises were purposely refused water, and that the people in charge had "no...empathy for the animals."

In a statement provided to The Dodo, PetSmart said that "nothing is more important to us than the health and safety of pets."

"We take these allegations very seriously," the company said. "We hold ourselves and all of our pet suppliers to the highest standards. We are reviewing the matter internally, and if we find that our standards have not been met, we will take appropriate action immediately."

Reptiles by Mack did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

PETA said that it informed Reptiles by Mack of the investigation late last year and was told that conditions would improve. However, a second investigator reportedly revealed that animals were still being left without vet care or water, and that some were left to suffer in the "kill" tubs for several days before being put down.

Unfortunately, these conditions aren't surprising for anyone familiar with how pet store animals are often treated behind the scene. Last month's investigation of Holmes Farm, a large Pennsylvania breeder that supplied animals to Petco, PetSmart, Pet Supplies Plus and other large pet store chains revealed hundreds of animals packed into filthy bins and cages, dead and dying animals left in cages with their companions, workers throwing animals and plastic bags of struggling newborn mice left to suffocate in a freezer.

Of course, the best way to avoid supporting these industries is simple: Adopt. To get started and find animals in need near you, you can visit Adopt-a-Pet.com.

If you'd like to ask PetSmart to raise standards for its suppliers - or stop selling reptiles altogether - you can reach the store's customer care department at 800-437-8458.

Update: In a response in mid-March, Reptiles by Mack told The Dodo that it was conducting an internal investigation following the undercover report, but that the accusations weren't accurate. "I want to assure you that we take very seriously our reputation as a respected and credentialed reptile supplier," the company wrote. "We have found numerous discrepancies in the photos and video and report that much of what you see here [in the report] is misrepresented or taken out of context. The PETA allegations reflect care that is absolutely not up to our standards; this type of animal treatment is not how we train our employees and will not be tolerated in any of our facilities."

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Does PetSmart sell baby bearded dragons?

Is it safe to hold a baby bearded dragon?

To make sure you both are safe, and to reduce any risks of injuring the bearded dragon you should practice proper handling techniques. … Carefully slide your hand under the belly of the bearded dragon. If you are picking up a baby, keep one finger under the chin. It will hold onto the finger.

Does PetSmart have baby bearded dragons?

Expected Size: Bearded dragons can grow up to 24 inches (61 cm). … Handling: Bearded dragons typically tolerate handling well. Vet Assured: Pets purchased at PetSmart are part of our exclusive Vet Assured program, designed by PetSmart veterinarians to help improve the health and well-being of our pets.

What is a zero bearded dragon?

Zero bearded dragons are completely patternless and colorless. They are a newer morph that are quickly gaining popularity within the beardie community. Hypo Zeros tend to be paper-white while non hypo zeros are more silver and gray.

Does Petco sell baby bearded dragons?

Bearded Dragons provided at Petco are healthy, well-established babies. … You Could Get A Baby.

Can I take my baby bearded dragon outside?

Yes, bearded dragons can definitely go outside and the natural sunlight is really good for them. However, you have to make sure that it is not too cold outside. … Still, exposing your bearded dragon to low temperatures constantly will cause sickness in your bearded dragon.

How old are baby bearded dragons at PetSmart?

Re: What age are PetSmart Beardie’s sold at? I regularly see beardies that appear as young as 4 weeks at Petsmart, the larger ones being *maybe* 2 months.

Does Petbarn sell bearded dragons?

Petbarn, all the supplies you need for your reptile. We stock specialist food for bearded dragons, turtles and other reptiles as well as supplements that can be added to your reptile’s food to make sure your pets are getting a balanced diet.

How much food should a bearded dragon eat daily?

around 10 crickets per day

How much does a bearded dragon usually cost?

The average bearded dragon cost is anywhere between $30 and $100 depending on its age. However, that only reflects the price of the beardie itself. When you consider the costs of their enclosure, necessary care supplies, and an initial vet visit, you’re looking at an additional $300 to $600.

How old are the baby bearded dragons at Petsmart?

Re: What age are PetSmart Beardie’s sold at? I regularly see beardies that appear as young as 4 weeks at Petsmart, the larger ones being *maybe* 2 months.

How much does it cost for a baby bearded dragon?

The average bearded dragon cost is anywhere between $30 and $100 depending on its age. However, that only reflects the price of the beardie itself. When you consider the costs of their enclosure, necessary care supplies, and an initial vet visit, you’re looking at an additional $300 to $600.

What is the cheapest bearded dragon?

Age: Juvenile baby dragons cost less than larger, more mature ones. Baby beardies typically sell from around $25 – $65. Older dragons sell for up to $100, and sometimes more. Type: The inland bearded dragon is the type most commonly sold as a pet, though there are several other species.

How old are baby bearded dragons at Petco?

Petco babies can be from 1 month to about 3.

Can you get sick from touching a bearded dragon?

Salmonella. While turtles are most commonly incriminated for causing Salmonella bacterial infections in children, bearded dragons also have been determined to be a source of this infection. Salmonellosis is a zoonotic disease, meaning it can be transmitted from animals to humans.

How much do bearded dragons cost?

Depending on species, bearded dragons will cost from $60 up to $200. Pygmy bearded dragons are most expensive, though strong colour variations will fetch up to $400.

How old are pet store bearded dragons?

Method 3 of 3: You won’t be able to see any gender-identifying traits on bearded dragons before this age. When beardies are hatchlings, there aren’t any differences in size, color, shape, or other distinguishing features. You must wait until they are at least 8-12 months old.

Where can I buy a bearded dragon in Australia?

How much does it cost to feed a bearded dragon per month?

All in between bugs and veggies, expect to spend about $40-$120 per month feeding your bearded dragon. We are at the $40 level almost every month, it’s easy to keep costs down here!

How can I tell how old my baby bearded dragon is?

You can estimate your juvenile bearded dragon’s age by length from the tip of his tail to the tip of his snout. Hatchlings begin life at less than 4 inches long. By the time bearded dragons are 6 weeks old, they’ll be just over 6 inches long. The dragons grow at just under an inch per week.

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https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/live-reptiles/snakes-turtles-and-more/bearded-dragon-15379.html#:~:text=Expected%20Size%3A%20Bearded%20dragons%20can,24%20inches%20(61%20cm).&text=Handling%3A%20Bearded%20dragons%20typically%20tolerate,well%2Dbeing%20of%20our%20pets.

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https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcostore/product/bearded-dragon-5003965–1#:~:text=Bearded%20Dragons%20provided%20at%20Petco%20are%20healthy%2C%20well%2Destablished%20babies.&text=You%20Could%20Get%20A%20Baby.

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https://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1413099#:~:text=Re%3A%20What%20age%20are%20PetSmart%20Beardie’s%20sold%20at%3F,-by%20Toasty%20%C2%BB%20Mon&text=I%20regularly%20see%20beardies%20that,being%20*maybe*%202%20months.

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