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nfrine said:

Unfortunately, without subsidies and/or mandates, corn-based ethonol could not survive on it's own merits.

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Subsidies are down a lot now compared to where they were when corn based ethanol really started in 2008. Yes there are mandates out there but we have overproduced the mandate up until because economics work to make it.

I burn ethanol in everything I drive and prefer 15% over 10% blend when it's available. It runs cooler and is like running a infection cleaner all the time. I have checked in my ridgeline and the difference between 87 octane reg gas and 87 octane 10% blend was less that a 1/2 mile per gallon and the 15% dropped it another 3/10 to 4/10 of a mile so it's not that much. I have also burned only 10-15% blended ethanol in all my vehicles and so far I have had exactly 0 issues with engines attributed to using ethanol. And that is in 2003 up to current 2016 vehicles with anwhere from 35K miles to 177K miles.

I do not use ethanol gas in my lawn mower and snowblower and most of the time my motorcycle but otherwise other than checking mileage every once in a while I only use ethanol.

I'll support farmers even if it did cost me a little bit more over saving a few pennies but putting more money in the towel heads that would rather see us dead. However, in about all the checks I've done, it isn't costing me anything more and in some cases I'm saving a bit.

Then again, I do my own research instead of reading big oil articles trashing a program that hurts their bottom line and take it as fact.


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E85 and Flex-Fuel Vehicles

E85 is a fuel blend containing up to 83% ethanol and 15% gasoline and contains about 98 octane. E85 can only be used in flex-fuel vehicles (FFVs).  There are now more than 24 million FFVs on the road, or nearly 10% of all vehicles, representing more vehicles than require premium today. Click here for a list of all FFVs.


There are several ways to determine if a vehicle is an FFV:

  • Sticker inside the vehicle’s fuel filler door; some manufacturers add yellow gas gaps for additional recognition.
  • FFV badge on the rear of the vehicle.
  • Check the owner’s manual; it’s also encoded in the vehicle’s identification number (VIN).

Retailer Equipment

E85 does require different equipment than regular gasoline. E85 can easily be incorporated into multi-product dispensers, eliminating the need for stand-alone equipment. View the Handbook for Handling, Storing & Dispensing E85.


Fuel equipment sold today is typically tested by the manufacture to prove that it is compatible at one of four levels of ethanol: 10% (E10), 25% (E25), 85% (E85), or 100% (E100). That marks the highest level of ethanol that equipment has been proven to accommodate without a risk of failure (i.e. spilling fuel into the environment). Some equipment, like most new underground storage tanks, already comes compatible at the E85 or E100 level. 


There is a federal alternative vehicle refueling property credit for fuel retailers to offer E85. This credit is available through tax year 2021. Click here for more information.

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Ethanol Blends

Ethanol is available in several different blends for use in conventional and flexible fuel vehicles.


E10 is a low-level blend composed of 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline. It is approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use in any conventional, gasoline-powered vehicle. The use of E10 was spurred by the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 (and subsequent laws), which mandated the sale of oxygenated fuels in areas with unhealthy levels of carbon monoxide. This kicked off modern U.S. ethanol industry growth. Today, E10 is sold in every state. More than 98% of U.S. gasoline contains up to 10% ethanol to boost octane, meet air quality requirements, or satisfy the Renewable Fuel Standard. E10 does not qualify as an alternative fuel under the Energy Policy Act of 1992 (EPAct).


E15 is a low-level blend composed of 10.5% to 15% ethanol and gasoline. E15 is approved for use in model year 2001 and newer light-duty conventional vehicles. Stations must adhere to several EPA requirements and regulations when selling E15. An important requirement is implementation of a misfueling mitigation plan to reduce the risk of vehicles older than model year 2001 refueling with E15. While E15 does not qualify as an alternative fuel under EPAct, it does help meet the federal Renewable Fuel Standard.


E85 (or flex fuel) is an ethanol-gasoline blend containing 51% to 83% ethanol, depending on geography and season that qualifies as an alternative fuel under EPAct. E85 can be used in flexible fuel vehicles (FFVs), which have an internal combustion engine and are designed to run on E85, gasoline, or any blend of gasoline and ethanol up to 83%. FFVs have been produced since the 1990s, and more than 60 models are currently available. Since FFVs look just like gasoline-only models, visit Fueleconomy.gov to learn how to identify a flex-fuel vehicle or use the Alternative Fuel and Advanced Vehicle Search to find current FFV models. E85 is not approved for use in gasoline-only models.

Intermediate Blends from Blender Pumps

Blender pumps are dispensers that draw and blend fuel from two tanks. For example, a blender pump dispenser can offer three grades of gasoline (regular, premium, mid-grade) by storing regular and premium in two tanks underground. The dispenser is then able to blend the two to offer mid-grade gasoline. Ethanol blender pumps work the same way, with regular gasoline and E85 stored in two tanks. Intermediate blends are for use in FFVs and offer owners more options. Common blends, in addition to E85, include E25 (25% ethanol, 75% gasoline) and E30 (30% ethanol, 70% gasoline). Labels must clearly indicate blender pump fuels for FFVs. Blender pumps are also a legal method to dispense E15 to conventional vehicles, model year 2001 and newer.

High-Octane Fuel

The U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Bioenergy Technologies Office funded a project to assess the potential of high-octane fuel (HOF) to reduce energy consumption and greenhouse gas emissions, as well as to understand barriers to its successful market introduction. The project focused on HOF with an ethanol content of 25% to 40% for use in a vehicle engine specifically designed to take advantage of the high octane content of the fuel. Industry continues to investigate the potential of high-octane ethanol fuel. Additional details of the HOF study and publications are available on the Bioenergy Knowledge Discovery Framework.

The Co-Optimization of Fuels & Engines (Co-Optima) initiative is an ongoing DOE-funded multi-national laboratory program evaluating high-octane fuels, including ethanol, to improve vehicle efficiency.

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What is E15 and why should I care?

E15 is shorthand for gasoline blended with 15 percent ethanol. The reason it's a big deal is that ethanol is fairly corrosive to rubber and certain metals, so it can cause damage to vital components. Ethanol also attracts and bonds with water from the air, and that water can separate out inside the tank due to phase separation. If your vehicle sits for long periods between use, the moisture settles to the bottom of the tank and can potentially clog in-tank pumps and filters. Damage is also possible in fuel lines, injectors, seals, gaskets, and valve seats as well as carburetors on older engines.

Is it really okay for my car?

This is a tricky question and the subject of a lot of hand-wringing right now. The gas you use now is often 10 percent ethanol, but some industry groups believe the higher concentration of E15 will cause problems. All cars 2007 and newer should be compatible with E15 because automakers have changed the formulation of the affected components. The EPA has certified vehicles in the U.S. fleet made in 2001 or newer, and all Flex Fuel–capable vehicles (able to use up to an 85 percent ethanol, 15 percent gasoline mix) as E15 compatible. One study conducted at Kettering University found no remarkable degradation in fuel systems all the way back to 1995 model years. But the main issue is whether or not your vehicle will be covered under warranty for any damage caused by E15 usage, and in many cases the answer is no. GM and Ford have certified their own vehicles starting with the 2012 and 2013 model years, respectively, so some brand-new cars will have no trouble at all.

My car is older than 2001. What should I do?

Don't fill your fuel tank with E15, simple as that. Even though the new fuel is coming to market, the gasoline or E10 you fill your tank with now will still be available. There is a twist, though. At gas stations that use blender pumps (a single spout that dispenses all octanes) you'll have to purchase at least 4 gallons of E10 to insure any E15 in the hose is diluted to safe levels in your fuel tank. Fuel pumps will be required to have a 4-inch-square label warning motorists not to use the fuel for uncertified engines. With that in mind, the best advice if you have an older car is to stick to stations that have not switched over.

Will this damage my lawnmower, boat, jet ski, snowmobile, or four-wheeler?

It sure will if you don't pay attention. Generally, small engines are not designed to deal with the more corrosive E15 blend. And, as we mentioned in 2010, ethanol forms a brown goo when left in a fuel tank too long, which can clog fuel-system components. Two-stroke engines run hotter with an ethanol blend, which accelerates the potential damage. And ethanol can wreak havoc on fiberglass fuel tanks in older boats. Groups like the National Marine Manufacturers Association and Outdoor Power Equipment Institute have issued strong warnings to consumers to pay attention to their fuels or risk severe engine damage. Use a fuel stabilizer if the engine will sit for more than a few weeks without use; this will reduce the ethanol–water separation and potential gumming issues. Be careful to avoid using E15 in uncertified engines like these, at least until the subject is studied more thoroughly, and the engineering catches up to the fuel.

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Kum & Go Pushes Ethanol in Colorado


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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. Kum & Go is encouraging Colorado Springs, Colo., customers to fuel up with E15 as part of its “Look for the Blue Hose” ethanol campaign.

E15 is a cleaner-burning ethanol-gasoline blend made with field corn. Safe for most modern gasoline engines, use of E15 gasoline cuts greenhouse gas emissions. E15 can also save drivers up to 10 cents per gallon compared to conventional gasoline.

The Colorado Springs area is home to the largest concentration of E15 or eblend filling stations, including 58 Kum & Go locations throughout Colorado, according to the retailer. Des Moines, Iowa-based Kum & Go is No. 18 on CSP’s 2020 Top 202 ranking of U.S. c-store chains by store count.

"As a family-owned business, the health and well being of our customers is a personal priority for everyone at Kum & Go," said Ken Kleemeier, vice president of fuels for Kum & Go. "We are part of the ‘Look for the Blue Hose’ campaign to make Coloradoans aware of a great fuel product that ultimately helps to bolster the economic vitality of our farming communities."

While most gasoline today already contains about 10% ethanol, E15 contains a 15% blend of ethanol with 85% conventional gasoline that lowers carbon emissions and improves engine performance. E10 has already reduced greenhouse gas emissions in 2019 by 54.1 million metric tons, according to the Colorado Corn Administrative Committee. Growth Energy recently reported that drivers have surpassed 16 billion miles driven on E15.

"We all want cleaner air for ourselves and for our children. For many people, the solutions feel complex and far beyond our reach," said Angela Tin, national senior director of clean air initiatives at the American Lung Association. "But this is very simple: By reaching for the blue hose at your next fill up, and asking your friends and neighbors to do the same, each of us can have a huge impact on the air quality in and around Colorado Springs, and improve the long-term health of our children and future generations."

A renewable resource, ethanol is made from field corn, commonly used for livestock feed. This grain alcohol has been used for over a century as an engine fuel, including in Henry Ford's famous Model T. E15 is safe for all 2001 and newer cars, SUVs, and light duty trucks. It is EPA approved and is the most widely tested fuel on the market, according to the Colorado Corn Administrative Committee.

"Not only is E15 better for the environment, it is also a powerful way to support the American economy, specifically American farmers, including those right here in Colorado," said Nick Colglazier, executive director of the Colorado Corn Administrative Committee, a co-sponsor of the ‘Look for the Blue Hose’ campaign. "When you choose E15, you support clean, home-grown energy that benefits America's farmers and fuels our local economy. It's a win-win-win for drivers, farm families, the environment and the economy."

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Mechanics Corner: What You Need to Know About Using E15

Ethanol has been around in our fuels for a long time. Since the 1980s, fuel composition has consistently been changing. The latest change is more ethanol in the fuel supply, due to ethanol’s economic, environmental and performance benefits. It’s a natural progression, along with improvements in engine technology. In May 2019 the Trump Administration approved year-round sales of E15, a fuel blend with 15 percent ethanol. With that change, our Under The Hood radio show listeners have been asking several great questions about E15. Here are the top five:

1. Is E15 good for my engine, or will it harm it in any way? 

Ethanol has been added to gasoline in the U.S. fuel supply for decades, mostly at 10 percent and now at 15 percent. Drivers have been choosing it for its price point and have found it to work almost identically to non-ethanol gasoline when used at 10-15 percent. Some of the benefits, besides being much cheaper in most cases, are a cleaner-running fuel system and cooler cylinder temps. Many folks have their own opinions, but as full-time mechanics and users of the fuel this is what we are seeing.

2. What kind of car can we run E15 in? 

E15 has been certified for use in any gasoline-powered car with a U.S.-certified emissions system from 2001 or newer, whether it’s flex fuel or not. To be clear, 90 percent of all vehicles on the road today fall into this 2001-and-up category, so chances are that’s your vehicle. Many people have used it in older cars too, but use in 2001 and newer has been tested and approved by the Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy. Older models were not tested due to variability and age.

3. Can I save money using ethanol?

Yes, you can. Just look at the pump price and you will notice a significant difference between non-ethanol fuel and ethanol blends of E15. The cost savings for E15 range from 5 to 10 cents better than E10, and 30 to 40 cents better than a non-ethanol fuel. Some people may tell you that they see many miles per gallon difference between the fuels, but we would say, try it yourself and you make the decision. 

4. I’m concerned about the planet and pollution. Is ethanol any cleaner than gasoline? 

Ethanol is cleaner-burning than gasoline by its nature. You probably know that ethanol is a form of alcohol, and our guess is that you have seen alcohol burn at some point. When it is burned, it gives off almost no form of visible smoke. When gasoline burns, there is a dark haze emitted by the burning fuel. A wider use of E15 will help in lowering emissions from cars that lead to pollution. Increasing the concentration of ethanol in gasoline reduces carbon emissions and displaces some of the most toxic and carcinogenic fuel additives.

5. I get a check-engine light when I use E15 in my car but not when I use premium. Why does the fuel cause this?

It’s not the fuel. The minor difference between ethanol and non-ethanol fuel is referred to as fuel trims (how much air and fuel are mixed together by the computer to make the engine run its best), and it is not enough to cause a check-engine light. However, if the vehicle is in a poor state of tune and likely already not as fuel efficient as possible, then that slight difference may cause a light and indicate it’s time for some love for your car in the form of a tune-up or other repairs to get its efficiency back to par.

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AAA warns E15 gasoline could cause car damage

  • New, higher blend of ethanol fuel could harm fuel systems, void warranties
  • EPA says E15 is safe for most 2001 and newer cars
  • Wisconsin Congressman Sensenbrenner agrees with AAA findings.

The AAA says the Environmental Protection Agency and gasoline retailers should halt the sale of E15, a new ethanol blend that could damage millions of vehicles and void car warranties.

AAA, which issued its warning Friday, says just 12 million of more than 240 million cars, trucks and SUVs now in use have manufacturers' approval for E15. Flex-fuel vehicles, 2012 and newer General Motors vehicles, 2013 Fords and 2001 and later model Porsches are the exceptions, according to AAA, the nation's largest motorist group, with 53.5 million members.

AAA says the sale and use of E15 should be stopped until there's more information about the ethanol blend's effect on engines.

"It is clear that millions of Americans are unfamiliar with E15, which means there is a strong possibility that many may improperly fill up using this gasoline and damage their vehicle," AAA President and CEO Robert Darbelnet tells USA TODAY. "Bringing E15 to the market without adequate safeguards does not responsibly meet the needs of consumers."

BMW, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota and VW have said their warranties will not cover fuel-related claims caused by E15. Ford, Honda, Kia, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo have said E15 use will void warranties, says Darbelnet, citing potential corrosive damage to fuel lines, gaskets and other engine components.

Gasoline blended with 10% ethanol has become standard at most of the nation's 160,000 gas stations, spurred by federal laws and standards designed to use more renewable energy sources and lessen the nation's dependence on foreign oil. Pushed by ethanol producers, the EPA approved the use of E15 -- a 15% ethanol-gasoline blend -- in June over objections from automakers and the oil industry. It's been available at a handful of outlets in Kansas, Iowa and Nebraska since July.

EPA stickers affixed to gas station pumps say E15 is safe for use in virtually all vehicles 2001 and newer. (USA TODAY made repeated requests for EPA comment.)

But AAA -- in an unusual warning for a travel organization -- says the sale and use of E15 should be stopped until there is more-extensive testing, better pump labels to safeguard consumers and more consumer education about potential hazards.

Bob Dinneen, CEO of the Renewable Fuels Association, says E15 is safe for virtually all post-2001 vehicles, based on extensive government-sponsored testing. "We think the (EPA) warning label should be sufficient to notify consumers,'' Dinneen says. "There are no corrosive issues with E15. If there's an issue with E15 (damaging vehicles) we're going to know about it, and the EPA is going to know about it."

But the American Petroleum Institute says a three-year study conducted by automakers and the oil industry found that E15 is a consumer safety issue for a majority of drivers with pre-2012 vehicles. "Our testing of a range of ethanol levels at 15% to 20% has identified issues about engine durability,'' API group director and engineer Bob Greco says.

Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner has proposed legislation requiring the EPA to authorize an unbiased study of E15, agrees with the AAA. "(The) findings affirm what we have already heard—E15 causes premature engine damage and voids warranties, even on new models," the Wisconsin Republican says. "Concerns about E15 are not diminishing, they are increasing. That is telling. When an organization like AAA, a nationally trusted source for motorists, calls out the EPA, you would think the (Obama) Administration would listen."

A gas pump at Zarco 66 in Lawrence, Kansas, where E15 gasoline is sold among its blends.

The National Association of Convenience Stores says it's also worried about the effect of E15 on station pumps and fuel lines. "The EPA says its OK to sell it, but for most retailers, there is too much uncertainty related to consumer demand and liability protection, especially if it's later determined E15 is a defective product or there are problems,'' spokesman Jeff Lenard says.

Scott Zaremba, who has been selling E15 blends at several of his eight Zarco 66 stations in Kansas since July, says no customers have complained. He's also fueling his 2001 Chevy pickup with E15 blend.

"The same complaints came when 10% blend came in -- the world was coming to an end,'' says Zaremba, 47. "E15 burns well and has great performance, and four people tell me it gives them better gas mileage. I don't see any major issues with it -- yet."

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